Here is a story about a boy from Atlanta, from my very own high school and community, albeit a good deal younger. He got Hodgkin's Lymphoma while studying in Yeshiva in Israel. So he goes to the highly paternalistic Israeli doctors, here is an excerpt:
“By the l6th blood test on the fifth day, they said, ‘We see something in your blood,’” Khandadash said. “Now to give you a behind the scenes view, the doctors there would not tell you anything. It’s not like in America where you have a right to know everything. They literally would not tell you anything. I was like, ‘Maybe they think I’m a kid?’”Two things:
1) 5 days to get to a HL diagnosis?! Earlier reading of the article puts HL up on the list: age, persistent respiratory illness, fevers, night sweats. A positive CXR! I did relatively average on the heme/onc test, and I can tell you this kid has B-symptoms written all over him. What a bunch of quacks!
2) I know that I've been force fed like a veal-to-be the line about patient and family centered care, which is a buzzword, but it's also real. Patients aren't a piece of meat, nor are they simply patrons who come to the grand wizard for his almighty opinion. Clearly they mismanaged his case, and he might have been more forgiving had they not been royal D-Bags about the whole thing. If I've learned one thing in medical school, it's that as much as we do know, we really don't know, and modesty is good as gold in this profession.
So moving along, he realizes that the gig is up, and he purchases for himself private insurance. And the insurance co. immediately drops him once they find out it's HL. Now I feel awful that this young man got sick, but this is total pre-existing condition, and he bought insurance only after realizing, "oh wait, this isn't good." It's irresponsible not to have some sort of coverage. Insurance is not for if you get sick, it's for when you get sick. Now, the greater issue is insurance companies doing this at all, and this illustrates the serious flaws of 3rd party payer managed care. Of course, Israel has a socialized system which still has the downfalls of point 1, but he didn't have access to the social system regardless.
So he goes to his American doctor at Scottish Rite. A good hospital:
Khandadash then thought to himself what the Israeli doctors told him, that his lungs looked fine on the x-ray he saw overseas. He informed his doctor what he was previously told.
Doctor: “Are you serious?”Like I said before,
Khandadash: “Yeah, this is what I saw in Israel.”
Doctor: “They didn’t catch anything in Israel?”
Khandadash: “No.”
Doctor: “Well, you see this?” The doctor points to outlines of two objects.
Khandadash: “Yeah, my lungs.”
Doctor: “You see these two big things over here and over here? Those aren’t supposed to be there.”
Thankfully, HL generally has a good prognosis. Imagine this kid walked in with something more serious that they completely overlooked in Israel. He could be way worse off at this point. I've heard lots of people, particularly family members, defend Israeli Healthcare to the hilt (possibly due to their religious-zionist bias swinging them away from objectivity [but aren't we all swung that way?]), as if its this perfect system. But I know, based on my experience there as well as the anecdotes of others, that its all-around better over here. Not to say that you don't deal with loads of bullcrap from doctors over here. Trust me, I know the people in my class, the future dotors of America. But still, we can, and will, and do, do it better.

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I had my own harrowing experience with Israeli health care during my year there involving a broken pinky. They didn't know shit from sheezles & the awful doctor at Shaare Tzedek, outraged at my inquiry as to whether chiseling bone from my wrist and fabricating a non-bending, utterly useless dummy pinky to replace my broken one was absolutely necessary, exclaimed "I am the best doctor here!"
After giving me an MRI on my pinky I realized they were all a bunch of idiots and called my dad (a doctor)and told him the saga. His immediate reaction was telling me to get the hell on a plane headed to America and not to let anyone do anything to my hand.
That's what I did. American health care has its problems, but the doctors here know their shit. I wouldn't want to be treated anywhere else.
Medicine in Israel is far from perfect, but from my experiences I think it is ignorant to label all Israeli doctors as "quacks". In Israeli medicine, just like many facets of life over there, things don't flow as smoothly as they do here. And to be successful you have to know how to navigate the culture.
I will illustrate with a comparison. In the U.S. if you get an MRI afterward the film is sent to and dealt with solely by the technicians and the ordering physician. Patients have to ask outright to get a copy of the film. In Israel after the MRI, the film is given on a cd to the patient to do with as he/she wills. It is their responsibility to get it where it is supposed to go.
Unfortunately I have a good amount of experience in dealing with medical professionals in both Israel and in the States, both systems have there pros and cons. I can easily imagine how a young inexperienced person, who is used to dealing with U.S. style medicine, would be overwhelmed and lost is the health care system in Israel especially if he did not speak Hebrew.
Isreali medicine is far from "3rd world". People from all over Europe and the middle east travel to Israel to receive medical treatment.
I find it ridiculous to draw such harsh conclusions from one article.
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I hear what Ben Poodiack is saying. It is wrong to label ALL Israeli doctors as quacks. That is ignorant, agreed. I mean, you got good care there, evidenced by your current existence. But! I still will hold that the quality of care is not simply measured by the doctor's diagnostic aptitude, but through the function of the health care system as a unit. Having shitty nurses, shitty follow up, shitty scheduling, and shitty beaurocracy (aspects which exists in both the US and Israeli systems to varying degrees) are what constitute quality of care provided. And I think that we do it better here. You don't like it, you suck. Buh-Dow!
Also, this kid was way irresponsible for not holding any form of coverage. He definitely acted inappropriately there, and obviously the medical costs are his responsibility. It is not a far leap to wonder if he didn't deal 100% honestly with his doctors while wondering if his insurance would be covering him or not. So we don't have the full story, agreed.
The post has been edited to suit ben poodiack's idiosyncracies
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